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    John Vest (@johnvest) points out something VERY important about #nextchurchindy

    John is providing a roundup on the NEXT Church debrief, and he says two things I want to chime in on.

    1) "This is just the beginning."  I have heard this repeatedly since the conference ended, as I voiced my frustrations.  People are telling me my expectations were too high.  Fine.  Perhaps they were, but when a gathering is called "NEXT Church" can you blame me?  There. I'll be done with that.

    2) This is the one that I think is really important:

    And, I think it is actually significant that there were so many big steeple pastors involved in this particular conversation. Big steeple pastors—especially those involved in denominational leadership—are the least likely to be asking the kinds of questions that were asked at this conference because big steeple churches are closest to the center of the Christendom establishment we are emerging from. Seminarians have been having these conversations for a long time. Emergents—and Presbymergents—have been having these conversations for a long time. Faith communities on the margins have been having these conversations for a long time. Now this iteration of the conversation has brought in some big steeple pastors of churches that would survive just fine if the rest of the PC(USA) were to fade away—or go away—tomorrow.
    That is no small thing. The next church that is emerging will take all of these people and many more. The conversation has expanded and will continue to expand.

    This is an astute piece of analysis, and I agree with John that this reality should be celebrated. For all the faults and foibles inherent in social location, these folks are wading into the water. Thank you, NEXT Church organizers.

    • 2 March 2011
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    about 1 year ago Rocky responded:
    I'm glad you came 'round to my way of thinking.

    [cue the crickets]

    What, in your view, needs to be the next step in the water? The next NEXT gathering or something prior?

    about 1 year ago Landon Whitsitt responded:
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    Crickets, indeed, Jack.

    I'm breaking my oath, and making one more comment on the issue: I can't speak for anyone else, but I have done (and continue to do) the hard work of owning up to my own reactions and expectations about this thing. I have failed and apologized, tried to be gracious and honest, speak directly and transparently, and let the words of others inform and influence my thinking. And yet, when I come out on the other side, there are two effects that I'm dealing with:

    1) Relationally, constantly being told that I'm just seeing it wrong makes me angry and makes me worry about the value I have in the eyes of those I love and respect.

    2) Productively, I fear that the way forward will be stymied because, seriously, I can't be the only one who is shortsighted on this thing. No one is good enough to be 100% wrong.

    To your questions:
    My worry is that everything will fall in line behind NEXT and no one will do any work other than the work of NEXT. But what to do? I can't think of anything other than continually encouraging decentralized gatherings.

    about 1 year ago Rocky responded:
    My "you came 'round to my way of thinking" comment took a friendly license that, on this subject, appears to be unhelpful. Consider it rescinded. Delete it with my permission.

    I'm all for decentralized gatherings, too. The first one, though, needs the organizers to give it some direction and shape, right? Okay, I'm done.

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